Nissan Klub Turbokillers :: Nissanowskie silniki i ich potencjały

jarkowy

Pewnie wielu z was już to zestawienie widział a le pewnie wielu nie dlatego wklejam. Jest tu pare rzeczy które dają do myslenia...

Turbo KA24DE [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 1
Aftermarket Support: 3
Donor Car(s): S13 (1991+ US model), S14 (all US models), Hardbody (pick-up)
Stock Horsepower: 155hp (157ps) @ 5600rpm *before turbo install*
Stock Torque: 160lb/ft (22.2kgm) @ 4400rpm *before turbo install*
Redline: 7,500rpm
Good: cheap, fast, less work than a swap
Bad: reliability issues in some cases when running med/high boost sustained
Engine Cost: $800-1,500 (a few hundred more if it's rebuilt or has some parts upgraded/strengthened)
Install Cost: n/a (everything is installed other than turbo) OR $200-500 (to install a new KA where your old KA was)
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 250-350hp

CA18DE-T [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 4
Aftermarket Support: 4
Donor Car(s): Silvia (1989-1990) and 180sx (japan)
Stock Horsepower: 173hp (175ps) @ 6400rpm
Stock Torque: 166lb/ft (23.0kgm) @ 4000rpm
Redline: 8,500rpm
Good: higher redline and cheaper than SR20DET with about the same potential, iron block
Bad: less parts support (esp in the US), weaker head gasket than SR20DET
Engine Cost: $2,000-3,000
Install Cost: $1,000-2,000
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 300-400hp

SR20DE-T (S13) [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 4
Aftermarket Support: 4
Donor Car(s): Silvia K (japan), Kouki 180SX
Stock HP: 203hp (205ps) @ 6000rpm
Stock Torque: 202lb/ft (28.0kgm) @ 4000rpm
Redline: 7,500rpm
Good: great output for the price with very good potential
Bad: less output than an RB25 and weakest (stock) SR20DET, aluminum block
Engine Cost: $2,500-3,500
Install Cost: $1,000-2,000
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 350-450hp

SR20DE-T (S14) [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 4
Aftermarket Support: 4
Donor Car(s): Silvia K (japan)
Stock Horsepower: 217hp (220ps) @ 6000rpm
Stock Torque: 202lb/ft (28.0kgm) @ 4800rpm
Redline: 7,500rpm
Good: slightly better output than the S13 SR20DET
Bad: VVT can be an issue when modifying heavily, aluminum block
Engine Cost: $4,000-5,000
Install Cost: $1,000-2,000
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 350-500hp

SR20DE-T (S15) [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 4
Aftermarket Support: 4
Donor Car(s): Silvia K (japan)
Stock Horsepower: 247hp (250ps) @ 6400rpm
Stock Torque: 202lb/ft @ 4800rpm
Redline: 7,500rpm
Good: ~250hp stock, usually very low mileage, better condition than s13 or s14 engines (in most cases)
Bad: 6 speed tranny is somewhat weak, so if you plan to increase the hp much you want to swap it for the ka tranny or an s13/14 tranny, VVT can be an issue when modifying heavily, aluminum block
Engine Cost: $5,000-6,000
Install Cost: $1,000-2,000
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 350-500hp

RB20DE-T [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 3
Aftermarket Support: 3
Donor Car(s): Skyline R31
Stock Horsepower: 207hp (210ps) @ 5600rpm
Stock Torque: 180lb/ft (25.0kgm) @ 4000rpm
Redline: 8,000rpm
Good: deeper engine sound, stronger than the SR20DET, more stock horsepower, iron block
Bad: cost
Engine Cost: $2,500-3,000
Install Cost: $2,000-2,500
Aftermarket Support: Fair
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 400-450hp

RB25DE-T [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 3
Aftermarket Support: 3
Donor Car(s): Skyline GT-S (R32, R33, R34)
Stock Horsepower: 247hp (250ps) @ 6000rpm
Stock Torque: 217lb/ft (30kgm) @ 4800rpm
Redline: 8,000rpm
Good: deeper engine sound, stronger than the SR20DET, more stock horsepower, iron block
Bad: cost, replacement parts availability
Engine Cost: $5,000-6,500
Install Cost: $2,500-3,000
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 400-450hp

RB26DE-TT [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 2
Aftermarket Support: 4
Donor Car(s): Skyline GTR (R32,R33,R34)
Stock Horsepower: 316hp (320ps) @ 6800rpm
Stock Torque: 289lb/ft (40.0kgm) @ 4400rpm
Redline: 8,000rpm
Good: huge potential, high horsepower stock, iron block
Bad: AWD tranny can't be used without lots of modification and custom work. TT setup can be retained, but it's much easier to convert it to a single turbo. RB25 tranny (5 speed rather than RB26 6 speed) because of clearence and fit issues.
Engine Cost: $7,000-8,000
Install Cost: ~$3,000 (AWD and TT setup will be in excess of $15,000 for install)
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 500-600hp

RB30DE-T (hybrid) [more info | head conversion how-to]
Swap Difficulty: 3
Aftermarket Support: 3
Donor Car(s): Australian (block; RB30ET 3.0L SOHC) / Skyline GTR or GTS-T (head; RB25, RB26, or RB20)
Stock Horsepower: ?hp (?ps) @ ???rpm
Stock Torque: ?lb/ft (?kgm) @ ???rpm
Redline:
Good: good potential, iron block, cheap engine, when modified produces large hp numbers at low revs
Bad: age, replacement parts availability, block is hard to find, RB20 head requires lots of work to fit correctly
Engine Cost: n/a
Install Cost: ~3,000
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 350-400hp

VG30DE-TT [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 3
Aftermarket Support: 4
Donor Car(s): 300ZX TT
Stock Horsepower: 300hp (304ps) @ 6400rpm
Stock Torque: 283lb/ft (39.3kgm) @ 3600rpm
Redline:
Good: very unique and a decent engine for heavy modification
Bad: huge cost for custom fabrication
Engine Cost: $4,000-6,000
Install Cost: $10,000-20,000+
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 450-550hp

VQ30DE(K) [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 2
Aftermarket Support: 3
Donor Car(s): VQ30DE in A32 Maxima(1995-1999 US model), VQ30DEK in A33 Maxima(2000-2001 US models)
Stock Horsepower: 190 hp @ 5600 rpm(A32 VQ30DE), 222hp @ 6400rpm(A33 VQ30DEK)
Stock Torque: 205 lb ft @ 4000 rpm(A32 VQ30DE), 217 lb ft @ 4000rpm(A33 VQ30DEK)
Redline: 8,000 rpm
Good: Can be cheap, good low-end, lightweight, very turbo friendly for an NA motor.
Bad: Aluminum block, lack of top end on non DEK motors. Note: Can be fixed with variable intake manifold from Courtesy Nissan. Needs Pathfinder tranny.
Engine Cost: $400+
Install Cost: N/A
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 350-400hp

VQ35DE [more info]
Swap Difficulty: 2
Aftermarket Support: 2
Donor Car(s): 350Z, G35, kouki Maxima, kouki Altima, kouki Pathfinder
Stock Horsepower: 287hp (291ps) @ 6,200rpm (350z/G35), 245hp (249ps) @ 5,800rpm (Altima)
Stock Torque: 274lb/ft (38.0kgm) @ 4,800rpm (350z/G35), 246lb/ft (34.2kgm) @ 4,400rpm (Altima)
Redline: 6,600rpm
Good: very unique and a decent engine for heavy modification
Bad: huge cost for custom fabrication, engine taken from a kouki Altima or Maxima will need a RWD trans
Engine Cost: $5,000-7,500
Install Cost: $10,000-20,000+
Aftermarket Support: Fair
Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): n/a (350-400hp est.)

mellow · Stały gość Posty: 404 Skąd: Warszawa 2 TurboCash

znam ta stronke ..... niema to jak hAmerykanski optymizm

"CA18DE-T (...) Modified Horsepower Ceiling (stock internals): 300-400hp"

good luck gangsta doggz
Hollaz to the West Side!! :mrgreen:

jarkowy

TAk ale to jeszcze nic.
Redline 8500obr/min :roll:

Fakt ze ja czasmai swojego zakręce do 8000 ale robie to czasami a normalnie chipem ustawiam sobie limit na 7200
Kto jest odważny zeby wypóbować czy jego silnki pokręci się z 8500 na kążdym biegu? - zrobie mu chipa za darmo :mrgreen:

mellow · Stały gość Posty: 404 Skąd: Warszawa 2 TurboCash

Jezeli chodzi o tuning CA to lepiej pytac "fajfoklokow" , Amerykance wogole niekojaza tego silnika......

Adi

he to ja i tak zawsze najlepszy albo najglupszy u mnie w primerze 2.0 GT SR20 na gazie wykrecalem tak ze brakowaBo skali ale bylo napewno z 9500 jak nie wiecej troszeczke :twisted:

bo wskazowka stawala na dole w pionie a zegar mam 9000 do 3 biedu tak robilem pozniej to juz predkosci sie zaczynaly :wink:

Skaut · 0 TurboCash

Cytat:

wykrecalem tak ze brakowaBo skali ale bylo napewno z 9500

Jak tys to zrobil?? Ja mam ten sam woz ale wiem ze przy 6500rpm juz strasznie zdycha...

cziko · 0 TurboCash

Dewik

heh mi fabrycznie odcina przy 7.850...Zle czy dobrze,ale prawie nigdy nie krece tak wysoko:) Chyba ,ze trzeba

Coobcio

Moj SR20De tylko do 6500...

Ps. te 7850 to są wskazania obrotomierza w rzeczywistości jest 7500obr.min.

Ps2. a jaka jest seryjna wytrzymalość SR20De ??
Na trubinie bez odperzania 250 kucy osiagnie ??

Adi

na beznynie mi odcina tak ok 7200 a na gazie niema ograniczec nic nie odetnie chyba ze walki wyrwie korba kolano pokarze czy cos w tym stylu :lol:

no i dodam ze wszystko w nim seria tylko stozek siedzi a tak zero przerobek a i wywalilem katalizator

chuckie · 0 TurboCash

I jeszcze jedno bardzo mnie dziwi. Napisali że na stockowych bebechach w CA18DET to idzie zrobić 300-400hp.... Nie słyszałem choć bardzo ciekawe. Na forum na sxoc dowiedziałem sie że te silniczki wytrzymują 280-300 ale nie 400hp!? I jeszcze jedno Ciekawi mnie ten silnik RB30DET - wyłącznie czytałem, mało wiadomości, nigdy go nie widziałem i nie słyszałem żeby ktoś to wogóle tuningował - macie jakieś linki??

Paweł · Posty: 104 Skąd: Warszawa 96 TurboCash

No dobra może ja sie nie znam ale to auto z wyglądu ma silnik 1,8 a napisane jest jak wół 2,0l. :shock:

Patent z układem ssącym jest wykręcony ,
A dodatkowo ma taki sam wlot na masce jak ja ale naszczeście w innym miejscu

http://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=45931323
Może to ktoś od nas??

Coobcio

Ale to pięknie musi chodzi laga pewnie nie ma a temperatura poweitrza wylatującego z turbiny pewno lekko przekracza ze 120*C ale co tam

s14 · 0 TurboCash

patent jak w s12

Coobcio

Tak ale S12 miało doladowanie 0,35 bara a ta T28 myślę ze jest ustawiona na 0,6 jak ni :lol:

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